Wiseman examines the life of institutions
Filmmaker who captures American life doesn’t like the word ‘documentary’
Frederick Wiseman has spent more than half a century documenting American institutions.
With a small crew, he has tirelessly made lengthy, sober, engrossing filmic portraits of life in Jackson Heights, Queens; a Texas boxing gym; a Maine fishing village; small-town Indiana; a Massachusetts hospital for the criminally insane; a Philadelphia high school; a Colorado meatpacking plant; the New York Public Library.
Wiseman, 90, records sound himself, holding the boom microphone. He doesn’t research beforehand, instead letting what he sees dictate a film. No one lives more by the dictum of showing, not telling, than Wiseman. After assembling 100 to 250 hours of rushes, he toils over the footage, assembling sequences that capture life at a certain time and place, stitching together a narrative of expansive, long-take detail. Collectively, the films constitute a sprawling, clear-eyed mosaic of America.
Many consider Wiseman the greatest living documentary filmmaker. In 2016, he received an honorary Academy Award. “It’s as important to document kindness, civility and generosity of spirit as it is cruelty, banality and indifference,” he said.
In a time of unprecedented strain on federal institutions, Wiseman’s latest is a profile of a more local, functioning realm of U.S. civic life. “City Hall,” which played to typical acclaim at the Venice, Toronto and New York film festivals over the past few weeks, documents the daily hum and long-range aspirations of the Boston city government under Mayor Marty Walsh. It opens in virtual theaters Oct. 28.
Wiseman finished post-production on “City Hall” just as the pandemic was beginning. Aside from walks to relax, he’s stayed mostly inside since March. But sitting still is hard for someone who has averaged a movie a year for five decades. “For the first time in 55 years, I don’t have a movie to work on,” he said.
This interview has been edited for clarity and length.
A: City government touches more aspects of our lives than any other form of government. Among other things, it provides the necessary limits as to what we have to do to get along with each other and live together. Speeding limits. Places to park. Minimum health requirements for restaurants. The control of violence. The monopoly on the right to use force. Providing health services. It goes on and on and on. You sort of, or at least I did, take it for granted.
A: The institution is also just an excuse to observe human behavior in somewhat defined conditions. The films are as much about that as they are about institutions. For most of the films, all the encounters take place within a relatively limited geographical framework. Sometimes it’s just a building or in the case of “Boxing Gym,” a couple of rooms. In the case of “National Gallery,” it’s a big building. In the case of “Public Housing,” it was a housing project. Anything that takes place within the geographic boundaries of the institution is fair game to include in the film. Anything that takes place outside those boundaries is another film.
A: You’re quite right. I’m very interested in that. I hope 50 years from now they’ll be interested in the films because it’s a body of films which represent the work of one person exploring contemporary American life. I hope they’ll always be interested in them. I made “Law and Order” (about the Kansas City Police Department) in 1968 and the issues that film tries to deal with are very contemporary.
A: I’ve probably been more influenced by the books I’ve read than the movies I’ve seen. I’ve never consciously drawn on the work of another filmmaker while I’m shooting or editing. When I read a novel or read a poem, I think about the same kind of things that I do when I’m editing. When I went to college a long time ago, it was called close reading. It probably has a fancier name now. But we were taught to pay close attention to the text and not incorporate in our analysis of the text anything outside of it. In other words, we weren’t encouraged to read a biography of Ernest Hemingway to read “The Sun Also Rises.” So I learned how to pay close attention. So when I’m shooting and in particular when I’m editing, in order to make a film out of 150 hours of rushes, I have to pay close attention to what people are saying and doing and how they’re moving and how they’re dressed and the language they’re using. I have to explain the behavior that I’m seeing and hearing to myself in order to make a judgment. The making of these films involves an effort to be aware, in a sense to be awake.
A: The whole notion of a fly on the wall I find disgusting. It’s demeaning, really.
A: I’m happy with the word “movies.” I make movies. Maybe it’s because when I was growing up, “documentary” had an aura about it. You were supposed to see it because it was good for you, a bit like ex-lax. I think a movie should be entertaining, instructive, dramatic, funny. You should look for the same qualities in a documentary as in a fiction film. I hate didacticism in writing, and I also hate it in movies. I don’t like to be told what to think. I like to be asked to work and figure out what’s going on, so I discover.
A: They’re all enjoyable to make. One of the reasons I like doing this is because it’s fun. Each movie is a new subject. I like to think I learned something. I have an intense absorption in the film, in the shooting and the editing. It’s physically and emotionally and intellectually demanding. That’s a good combination of things for me.