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Manny Fonseca, deputy scout executive and chief operating officer for the Baltimore Area Council, says 115 of the council’s Cub Scout packs have opened up to the family scouting program. In 2018, the council had nearly 700 girls sign up for Cub Scouts. Nationwide, 77,000 girls enrolled last year, according to a spokeswoman for the national organization.
Twelve Scouts BSA girl troops are poised to launch within the first week in the Baltimore Area Council, with a total of 38 troops committed to accepting girls within the first year.
Fonseca said the numbers grow daily, and the reaction from troops has been positive. There have been a couple that are not ready to accept girls, he said, but those troops are not against the move to a co-ed program; they want to see it unfold and “get all their ducks in a row” before committing, “I pose the question to individuals: ‘Do you believe that young women and girls should have the same opportunity for leadership development skills as boys?’ and 10 times out of 10 the answer is ‘yes,’ ”
Fonseca said.
The Baltimore Area Council, Boy Scouts of America, was established in 1911, and covers Baltimore City, Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Harford and Howard counties.
The council currently serves 44,000 adults and youth, according to Fonseca. In 2018, it had 253 Cub Scout packs and 244 Boy Scout troops. It also included 50 co-ed Venturing Crews and six Sea Scout units — both of them longstanding Scouting programs that already allowed female membership.
Venturing Scouts are between ages 14 and 21, and cannot become Eagle Scouts.
With both the family scouting program and Scouts BSA, staff and volunteers for the Baltimore Area Council held webinars, conference calls and town hall meetings with their local-level scout leaders and others to get the message out about the changes.
The change has not been accepted by all, however. In November, Girl Scouts of the USA filed a trademark infringement lawsuit in New York against the Boy Scouts of America. The organization claims that “BSA does not have the right under federal or New York law to use terms like SCOUTS or SCOUTING by themselves in connection with services offered to girls, or to rebrand themselves as ‘the Scouts,” according to the complaint.
The case is ongoing. Last week Boy Scouts of America filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, according to court records.
Violet M. Apple, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Maryland, said in a statement that “the all-girl environment [of Girl Scouts] is powerful in terms of girl leadership and girl development. Research shows that this is the environment that girls learn best in, an environment where girls always come first.”
Girl Scouts offers STEM programs, outdoor activities including hiking, horseback riding and archery, one-on-one mentoring from women professionals, entrepreneurial experiences through selling the iconic Girl Scout cookies and opportunities to earn awards — Bronze, Silver or Gold, the highest achievement in Girl Scouting.
Girl Scouts of Central Maryland, established in 1962, serves 24,000 girls between 2,000 troops in Baltimore City and Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Harford and Howard counties, according to its website.
Apple said membership has remained steady over the years, and its Daisy, Senior and Ambassador levels have grown, she said.
Apple acknowledged, however, that “for years girls have chosen other organizations when Girl Scouts was not the fit for them.”
Founded in 1910, the Boy Scouts of America has had more than 110 million Americans participate in various Boy Scouts programs. Today, the organization has more than 2.2 million active youth participants and nearly one million adult volunteers.
In recent years Boy Scouts of America has made other changes, including accepting openly gay and transgender youths and gay Scout leaders.
In its response to the Girl Scouts lawsuit, Boy Scouts of America contends that when surveyed, 90 percent of non-Scouting parents showed interest in a program like Cub Scouts for their daughters, 87 percent were interested in a program like Scouts BSA for their daughters and 90 percent of girls aged 11 to 18 years old were interested in joining a Scouts BSA-type program.
Staying active Chris Lynge of Ellicott City has been cubmaster for Pack 361 for the past two years. Three of his children are involved in scouting. Son Daniel, 12, is in Scouts BSA, while Reece, 8, and his 7-year-old daughter Kara are both in Pack 361.
“The whole reason for scouting is to give youth, whether a girl or a boy, the opportunity to experience different things … a chance to develop leadership skills and learn outdoor skills,” Lynge said.
Pack 361serves children in Columbia and Ellicott City and meets at First Presbyterian Church of Howard County in Columbia. It has been accepting girls since June 2018.
Currently it has girls between kindergarten and the third grade, and more keep signing up as the school year progresses, Lynge said.
“It’s promising because the scout [pack] has never been this big before,” he said.
The pack made a decision, based on a shortage of adult volunteers, to not yet open up scouting to girls who are in fourth and fifth grade, Lynge said. The pack plans to add those grades within the year.
Caitlin Christy, district executive for National Pike District — a subgroup of the Baltimore Area Council that includes packs and troops in Howard County — said while finding volunteers is difficult, parents do sign up.
“Once parents see the success that their children are having in scouting, they are willing to step up and volunteer, whether in a small role or a den leader,” Christy said.
Parents “know that is something [their daughters] want to do and see the importance.”
Howard County currently has 39 Cub Scouts packs, 17 of them being family scouting packs. In Scouts BSA, there are 35 troops in Howard, but more are coming with the acceptance of girl troops.
“We will definitely have five girl troops starting Feb. 1 … [and] within the first quarter or half year that will go up to seven,”
Christy said.
Eight-year-old Cora Ogg of Ellicott City was a Girl Scout but joined Cub Scouts in Pack 361 to be with her 10-year-old brother Elliott. She said she enjoys activities and is looking forward to camping, making s’mores and hiking.
This month the pack held its annual “camp in,” where Scouts bring sleeping bags and learn about camping, cooking, merit badges, how to set up a tent, becoming an Eagle Scout and participating in High Adventure, an outdoor experience including backpacking, hiking, kayaking, canoeing and rock climbing.
Pamela Ward, of Ellicott City, has a son and a daughter in Pack 361. Natalie, 6, “wanted to do what her big brother did,”
Ward said. “She’s much more hands on, she wants to be outside … it just seemed like a better fit for her.”
Ward thinks girls should have a choice between Boys Scouts of America and Girl Scouts.
“If they could do both, why not?” she said.
Lynge said it doesn’t matter to him if a child enrolls in Scouts BSA or Girl Scouts — as long as they stay active and encouraged.
“I wish boys could join Girl Scouts and learn about entrepreneurship,” he said. “I want the youth to have the ability to develop skills, build character and become leaders. I just want them in scouting, that is the most important thing.”
Fonseca agreed, saying he hopes opportunities for young women can expand through both Girl Scouts and Scouting BSA.
“It’s not a competition of us or them,”
Fonseca said. jnocera@baltsun.com twitter.com/jessmnocera
Manny Fonseca, deputy scout executive and chief operating officer for the Baltimore Area Council, says 115 of the council’s Cub Scout packs have opened up to the family scouting program. In 2018, the council had nearly 700 girls sign up for Cub Scouts. Nationwide, 77,000 girls enrolled last year, according to a spokeswoman for the national organization.
Twelve Scouts BSA girl troops are poised to launch within the first week in the Baltimore Area Council, with a total of 38 troops committed to accepting girls within the first year.
Fonseca said the numbers grow daily, and the reaction from troops has been positive. There have been a couple that are not ready to accept girls, he said, but those troops are not against the move to a co-ed program; they want to see it unfold and “get all their ducks in a row” before committing, “I pose the question to individuals: ‘Do you believe that young women and girls should have the same opportunity for leadership development skills as boys?’ and 10 times out of 10 the answer is ‘yes,’ ”
Fonseca said.
The Baltimore Area Council, Boy Scouts of America, was established in 1911, and covers Baltimore City, Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Harford and Howard counties.
The council currently serves 44,000 adults and youth, according to Fonseca. In 2018, it had 253 Cub Scout packs and 244 Boy Scout troops. It also included 50 co-ed Venturing Crews and six Sea Scout units — both of them longstanding Scouting programs that already allowed female membership.
Venturing Scouts are between ages 14 and 21, and cannot become Eagle Scouts.
With both the family scouting program and Scouts BSA, staff and volunteers for the Baltimore Area Council held webinars, conference calls and town hall meetings with their local-level scout leaders and others to get the message out about the changes.
The change has not been accepted by all, however. In November, Girl Scouts of the USA filed a trademark infringement lawsuit in New York against the Boy Scouts of America. The organization claims that “BSA does not have the right under federal or New York law to use terms like SCOUTS or SCOUTING by themselves in connection with services offered to girls, or to rebrand themselves as ‘the Scouts,” according to the complaint.
The case is ongoing. Last week Boy Scouts of America filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, according to court records.
Violet M. Apple, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Maryland, said in a statement that “the all-girl environment [of Girl Scouts] is powerful in terms of girl leadership and girl development. Research shows that this is the environment that girls learn best in, an environment where girls always come first.”
Girl Scouts offers STEM programs, outdoor activities including hiking, horseback riding and archery, one-on-one mentoring from women professionals, entrepreneurial experiences through selling the iconic Girl Scout cookies and opportunities to earn awards — Bronze, Silver or Gold, the highest achievement in Girl Scouting.
Girl Scouts of Central Maryland, established in 1962, serves 24,000 girls between 2,000 troops in Baltimore City and Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Harford and Howard counties, according to its website.
Apple said membership has remained steady over the years, and its Daisy, Senior and Ambassador levels have grown, she said.
Apple acknowledged, however, that “for years girls have chosen other organizations when Girl Scouts was not the fit for them.”
Founded in 1910, the Boy Scouts of America has had more than 110 million Americans participate in various Boy Scouts programs. Today, the organization has more than 2.2 million active youth participants and nearly one million adult volunteers.
In recent years Boy Scouts of America has made other changes, including accepting openly gay and transgender youths and gay Scout leaders.
In its response to the Girl Scouts lawsuit, Boy Scouts of America contends that when surveyed, 90 percent of non-Scouting parents showed interest in a program like Cub Scouts for their daughters, 87 percent were interested in a program like Scouts BSA for their daughters and 90 percent of girls aged 11 to 18 years old were interested in joining a Scouts BSA-type program.
Staying active Chris Lynge of Ellicott City has been cubmaster for Pack 361 for the past two years. Three of his children are involved in scouting. Son Daniel, 12, is in Scouts BSA, while Reece, 8, and his 7-year-old daughter Kara are both in Pack 361.
“The whole reason for scouting is to give youth, whether a girl or a boy, the opportunity to experience different things … a chance to develop leadership skills and learn outdoor skills,” Lynge said.
Pack 361serves children in Columbia and Ellicott City and meets at First Presbyterian Church of Howard County in Columbia. It has been accepting girls since June 2018.
Currently it has girls between kindergarten and the third grade, and more keep signing up as the school year progresses, Lynge said.
“It’s promising because the scout [pack] has never been this big before,” he said.
The pack made a decision, based on a shortage of adult volunteers, to not yet open up scouting to girls who are in fourth and fifth grade, Lynge said. The pack plans to add those grades within the year.
Caitlin Christy, district executive for National Pike District — a subgroup of the Baltimore Area Council that includes packs and troops in Howard County — said while finding volunteers is difficult, parents do sign up.
“Once parents see the success that their children are having in scouting, they are willing to step up and volunteer, whether in a small role or a den leader,” Christy said.
Parents “know that is something [their daughters] want to do and see the importance.”
Howard County currently has 39 Cub Scouts packs, 17 of them being family scouting packs. In Scouts BSA, there are 35 troops in Howard, but more are coming with the acceptance of girl troops.
“We will definitely have five girl troops starting Feb. 1 … [and] within the first quarter or half year that will go up to seven,”
Christy said.
Eight-year-old Cora Ogg of Ellicott City was a Girl Scout but joined Cub Scouts in Pack 361 to be with her 10-year-old brother Elliott. She said she enjoys activities and is looking forward to camping, making s’mores and hiking.
This month the pack held its annual “camp in,” where Scouts bring sleeping bags and learn about camping, cooking, merit badges, how to set up a tent, becoming an Eagle Scout and participating in High Adventure, an outdoor experience including backpacking, hiking, kayaking, canoeing and rock climbing.
Pamela Ward, of Ellicott City, has a son and a daughter in Pack 361. Natalie, 6, “wanted to do what her big brother did,”
Ward said. “She’s much more hands on, she wants to be outside … it just seemed like a better fit for her.”
Ward thinks girls should have a choice between Boys Scouts of America and Girl Scouts.
“If they could do both, why not?” she said.
Lynge said it doesn’t matter to him if a child enrolls in Scouts BSA or Girl Scouts — as long as they stay active and encouraged.
“I wish boys could join Girl Scouts and learn about entrepreneurship,” he said. “I want the youth to have the ability to develop skills, build character and become leaders. I just want them in scouting, that is the most important thing.”
Fonseca agreed, saying he hopes opportunities for young women can expand through both Girl Scouts and Scouting BSA.
“It’s not a competition of us or them,”
Fonseca said. jnocera@baltsun.com twitter.com/jessmnocera
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